[Brian]

Awesome!!

[Brian]

ok now I see how this is beneficial!!!

E -1.5-> G -2.5-> C

So within the pattern look at what you have you know you need major 3rd and you know you need minor third for a primary non dim or aug triad.

No matter how you do this G is never going to be a 1.5 step (minor) or a 2 step (major from C or vice versus. So you move on. You see E is never going to work as a root with C as well.

However, you see that C–1.5 steps–>C is a minor 3rd and then its easy to see that E–2 steps–>G is a major 3rd and you know a minor 3rd and a major 3rd make a major triad so this is C major.

So you can identify triad that way if you was using some three chord triad but not sure what it was and wanted to create others to have a chordal melody but you was creatively having a block that you could remedy with music theory.

So anyway this is a example of a First inversion with the (3rd in the bass)

below is a few examples could analyze if wished including the one I did.

[Brian]

So had a little revelation today!!!

First off things are going really slow but its really fine because I am having to study the material alot then I have to take quizzes and stuff. so far have been focused on intervals and I am finding out they are part of everything which makes sense because they are how we label different sounds.

I moved on to Triads today after doing my interval ear training where I hear an interval and find it on guitar then map out the steps and half steps between notes to see what type of interval it is and my ears seem way better than when I was 18 years old as far as being able to find the notes.

Anyway back to Triads! I was not that excited about Triads I knew in the past what a Triad basically was it was a chord with the core notes. for a major chord: root, 3rd & 5th.

However oh boy was I wrong!!! you see while it was said in the past I never paid attention that much that for major chord it was a major 3rd and for the minor chord it was a minor third! Now in the past I knew the word major third, minor third I knew the distance between notes was intervals and those where some of the names of them etc… BUT DID I REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY MEANT??? No I don’t think so. In fact I know I didn’t I was pretty ignorant to the importance of them and how far this all goes.

See once you learn intervals then you start learning triads and then you learn each triad is actually two intervals for major its a [root, major 3rd & minor 3rd] and for a minor its a [root, minor third & major 3rd]. why is this important??? well I will get to that in a moment but look at those two chords real fast first. They are transposed and its all about the interval tone/distance between them. You reverse the minor and you have major and if you reverse the major you have minor.

Next there is two other chords not used often but they have importance and also relate to the intervals. there is Augmented and Diminished Triads and they are very easy to remember. augmented triad is [major triad with raised 5th: [root, 3rd, #5] and the minor triad is just a minor triad with a diminished 5th [ root, -3rd, -5th]. ( minus – = flat) for this reason there can only exist four possible e combinations. major triad: (major, minor), minor triad: (minor, major) and aug triad: (major, major) and diminished triad (minor, minor). so not much to remember here just 4!! oh but it gets better!!!

in past when I made triads it was like what key is this triad in I was trying to look at keys and it could be difficult when building all over the neck and especially when your learning every note on the neck and you cannot build a chord because not sure what you will get all the time; that can kind of suck!

intervals come to the rescue!!! now if you know intervals and all those beautiful half steps and whole steps and you remember the small amount of triad chords you can create them anywhere and quickly know what they are even when they get weird!!!

simply use intervals ok your first interval is 1.5 steps well that’s a minor third so guess what you have your first keyboard and you know if you want a minor key just find next note that is two steps for example you started with E and you added G so you know B will be your next note. Maybe however you want to make it diminished then you know you need another minor for a minor 3rd/minor3rd interval! not to mention you can tell with your ears as well. Anyway I found it really cool.

I am studying inversions now where the root is not always in the base. sometimes the 3rd is in the base its called a “first inversion” and when the 5th is in the base its called a “second inversion”. Still studying these last topics if I have a revelation and get it all figured out I will share.

[Brian]

Descending Intervals:

[Brian]

Here is some Ear Training with Intervals from book

Later might move all this stuff to word document edit all mistakes and and redo forums post where its all tidy but still learning to use forums here and ideas how to share. So sorry about all the stuff that may not be as straight forward. I am a research beast that goes hours each day but its very raw. I always call myself the a caveman meaning not as refined as probably should be for a intellectual and I have more of a pickaxe approach with brute strength and sheer amount of time and tenacity.

[Brian]

yes Step and 1/2 step I refer to them as whole step and half step also sometimes tone and semi tone.

I guess what was confusing in my answers I named the 1.5 steps I did not put the word steps in there. I should have for example labeled it.

“[A- to C- steps = 1.5] and the interval name is minor third”

I know interval in non-music terms means how far something is; so I used it loosely and then also used it again when talking about the specific name of the musical interval. Good catch! and poor labeling by me.

Your right that is confusing. I get excited when typing and sharing information like a little kid and that translates to communicating like a kid at times doh!!!! :X

dang it fail sauce!!! I suck haha!

P.S. I would go fix it but you can only edit for a set amount of time.

Also I had sent you a question that was a giant wall of text about Intervals and why they wanted me to memorize it in certain positions I think I figured that out on my own so can ignore if like.

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[Brian]

<div>Below is answers</div>

I use minus key for flat – = flat.

First row:

G to C int = 3.5 intervals which is a perfect 4th

C to E int = 2 intervals which is a major 3rd

C to E- int = 1.5 intervals which is a minor 3rd

F to C int = 3.5 intervals which is a perfect 5th

E to E int = octave

E to D int = 5 intervals which is a minor 7th

B to C int = .5 intervals which is a minor 2nd

G to E int = 4.5 intervals which is a Major 6th diminished

G to E- int = 4 intervals which is a minor 6th

Second Row:

C to B- int = 5 intervals which is a minor 7th

A to D# int = 3 intervals which is a Dim 5th or aug 4rth

F to A int = 2 intervals which is a Major 3rd

C to E int = 2 intervals which is a Major 3rd

D to A- int = 2.5 intervals which is a Diminished 5th (this fits special case below *

B to F# int = 3.5 interval which is a perfect 5th

E to G# int = 2 intervals which is a major 3rd

C to 2nd E int = 3 + 6 for Octave intervals which is a octave + major 3rd = major 10th

C to 2nd F int = 3.5 + 6 for Octave intervals which is octave + perfect 4th = perfect 11th

C to 2nd A int = 4.5 + 6 for Octave intervals which is octave + major 6th = major 13th

Third Row:

C to B – – int = 4.5 intervals which is a Dim 7th

F# to C## int = 4 intervals which is a augmented 5th

A to E# int = 4.5 intervals which is a Aug 5th 0(this fits special case below *)

F to B- int = 2.5 intervals which is a perfect 4th

E to D int = 5 intervals which is minor 7th

F to D- int = 4 intervals which is minor 6th

B to A# int = 5.5 intervals which is major 7th

D to E- int = .5 intervals which is minor 2nd

E- to D int = 5.5 intervals which is major 7th

A- to C- int = 1.5 intervals which is minor third

[Brian]

here is the sheet you would use to answer the questions. Mind you this is not the answers themselves I will post in next reply.

[Brian]

Use the website to grade answers and I will provide answers and a cheat sheet as well so you know what intervals are. I normally at this point look at what they are and try to find them as I am learning music and intervals at same time so its slow exercise that takes good amount of time.

The first one they Use P for Perfect so basically you put if its perfect, major, minor etc.. Down a few posts I will show how I did it.

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[Brian]

I was trying to buy some blank staff music when I found a word document template that you can print out your own Music Staff Paper:

https://templates.office.com/en-us/Music-staff-paper-12-per-page-TM06118235

I thought that was cool but then! Tomas got me thinking as he had links to really cool apps. I started thinking I betcha may be a program to for writing music I could use to practice and guess what!!!

I found this free APP:

https://musescore.org/en

It lets you write your own songs in music and does alot more but I am just learning the notes right now but its pretty cool and looks to be free. I made chord in it and some notes so far and it will play them for you!

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[Brian]

I have decided to go crazy with my Music Theory as its driving me crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am very eccentric knowledge seeker and leaner type. I cannot stand not knowing something… I also have decided to try and learn to read music because some of the books I wanted was not in TAB so I looked up a bunch of internet searches and was alot of books from different people alot the same but I was not sure which was best so bought most all of them.

I will let know what I think when I have finished them all ignore other books my kindle list contains alot of subjects its how I created my career as well by reading and learning and then building up labs until I understood it then went into the that field. I kind of like everything but only have one life so I pick things I want to spend more time with such as my job, in past now music etc…

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[Brian]

P.S. here is my current equipment my original stuff was stolen years back in a random house break in. I am a bit of a slob as you can see from pic (lol). I am one of those eccentric scientist/engineering geeks types that is so caught up in curiosity and learning about everything around him that I can sometimes be a bit lacking in taking care of more basic things.

Luckily I have my wife to chew on me and push me around all time as well as remind me of the small things (she is very good at that haha). I am an expert at annoying her 😛 but at least I am loving, kind and smile and laugh a lot so she tolerates me! lol

Funny because when I was younger didn’t do technology grew up in country more into the physical stuff however, when I got past 30s I started changing till I am what I am today.

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[Brian]

Hi Ron,

those Guitars look really nice and that amp has a nice throw back to the 70s with that orange color; I like! I work with people around the world or did so most of the time you guys from Aussie are on very early my time as its late for you. Feel free to post and stuff as I love communicating also love the stories from people older and hanging out around them as I always learn cool stuff.

Sharing music and progress is also a great learning trick that kind of holds us to a casual and lose accountability but at the same time is relaxed and kind of voluntary. I am big team player and its really changed my ability to learn much more information as you get excited to share or show things as well as ask questions and talk about theories or ideas!

Looking forward to seeing and chatting with you in the community!

Respectfully,

Brian aka wilder7bc (comes from my middle name of wilder lol)

[Brian]

Hi Tomas,

I did that complete series of yours and use the foundation of that for every morning as well. I had it listed as 6th and 5th string which I know completely now and I have also added the 4rth string as well.

Loved the octave trick and now I cheat all time by using it as I cannot help but see it once I learned it.

Great lesson and much recommended!!!

P.S. I went to the application/websites you have listed on your site last night https://realguitarsuccess.com/7-essential-free-resources-learning-guitar/ and saved them to my favorites and it also has a keyboard learning game as well as that awesome chord generator and scale generator!!!! So thanks for that as well!

7 Essential Free Resources For Learning Guitar

[Brian]

Hey Jeff,

6:44am CST here so Good Morning from Oklahoma. Yes Tomas material is awesome! good to meet you. Yes having a busy schedule can be tough luckily I work from home and so can play some through out day as well as evenings.

My work is project orientated and goes in bursts and some evenings and weekends but in between all that I grab practice time and I no longer have commute to work so save time there as well.

Bad thing is I gained weight from working at PC all time and age. Good thing is I am using guitar to help lose weight by picking it up instead of grabbing food out of kitchen lol. So while Guitar is sedentary I am able to use it as a health increasing item in weight loss as well though once weather gets nicer I will make sure to get out of my house/office at least once a day to walk the doggie and myself. ok coffee is done time to grab that and finish waking up.

have a good day!

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